Math Question?

[ig2000]

A kicked Rite targeting Doubling Season would put ten 5/5 Doubling Season tokens into play instead of five. Now if you Twincast a kicked Rite, the first copy puts ten into play but the second copy would have to double eleven times.

5-10-20-40-80-160-320-640-1280-2560-5120-10,240

Any more tokens entering play would have to be doubled 10240+11 times.

Math Question - Is there an equation for doubling some number X times?

All so first post of 2010!!

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Math is hard.

[Ixos 2: the Sequel]

Exponential growth.

I don't think that's exactly what you're looking for, though. (Although, the chess board thing comes close. Kind of like that I give you a penny and double it every day for a month, you're a millionaire.)

Any more tokens entering play would have to be doubled 10240+11 times.

So each token entering play would have to be doubled 10,240+11 times? I believe that that one would be 2^10,251=x (don't have my graphing calculator, so I can't tell you what x is). I assume they all come in at the same time and don't see the other new ones.

I think that how you're going to do this is every time you make tokens, each token you would make will become 2^x tokens, where x=the number of Doubling Seasons in play. Let's find out.

1 DS, 1 Rite, 10 tokens
Twincast Rite, 11 DS, so 2¹¹ (2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2=2048) No, that's not right. Hmm.

Maybe 5x2¹¹? 10240 (+11 that you already had) Okay. Yeah, I said each token you make willl become that many tokens. You're making 5 more, duh. Word problems are harder than normal math, but it looks like the equation would be a x 2ⁿ=number of tokens you get, where a is the number of tokens you're going to make, and n is the number of Doubling Seasons in play. So if you cast DS again, you will get 5x2¹⁰²⁵¹ more Doubling Season tokens. Twincast that and you will get 5x2^{5x2^10251} more tokens. And honestly, I don't think such a number exists.

Also honestly, I'm not entirely sure that that's how you'd do it. But it looks good to me.

[Ixos 2: the Sequel]

You know you're a geek when you start a thread in the Games section entitled "Math Question" and expect a serious answer. It's even worse when you can answer the question...

[ig2000]

thank you sir.
in return this.
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ok, one more

+ or any pact really.

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Jan 8, 2010 1:54:44 GMT -6 Ixos 2: the Sequel said:

You know you're a geek when you start a thread in the Games section entitled "Math Question" and expect a serious answer. It's even worse when you can answer the question...

My geek-fu is lacking.

[Ixos 2: the Sequel]

Is Hexmage a new way to abuse Dark Depths, or is that what you were talking about all along?

It almost seems like if you use your own copy of Pact of Negation to counter itself you wouldn't have to worry about the upkeep. It also almost seems like you could survive a plummeting phone booth by stepping out at the very last minute.

On a side note, I'm very disappointed that the combo in the OP is only 4 cards. You're slipping, ig. I'm even more disappointed that the next two combos are only 2 cards each. That's Ixosesque, and frankly, I'm offended. (My six card combo is better, anyway.)

[ig2000]

forgot i told you about hexmage, thats the same old way.

pact can't target its self on the stack. so that might not be the best one. any will do as long as the other players can't pay upkeep.

[Ixos 2: the Sequel]

Jan 8, 2010 23:24:04 GMT -6 @ig2000 said:

pact can't target its self on the stack. so that might not be the best one. any will do as long as the other players can't pay upkeep.

I was talking defensively, as in, "shit I can't pay upkeep, so I'll just pact my pact and be okay." I know it won't work, but it almost seems like it would. Not because it can't target itself (you still put the upkeep effect in). In fact, I thought that it could target itself. Is it the new Magic rules that keep it from doing that, or has it never been able to target itself? Magic is too hard for me. Way harder than math!